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Betty Boop in Snow-White (1933)

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u/weeburdies Oct 02 '22

That is Cab Calloway singing that! So cool

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u/didwanttobethatguy Oct 02 '22

St James Infirmary Blues

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u/GarbagePailGrrrl Oct 02 '22

Love the White Stripes cover

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u/cloudcats Oct 02 '22

Love that song.

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u/TheCyanKnight Oct 02 '22

I take every opportunity to praise Cab Calloway.
Truly a showman in the leagues of Elvis and Michael Jackson, only a little bit before true mass media.

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u/wild_man_wizard Oct 02 '22

Freddie doing call and response scatting with the crowd at Live Aid is basically a pure Cab Calloway tribute.

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u/OtisTetraxReigns Oct 02 '22

Queen: A Lorra!

Crowd: A Lorra!

Queen: A Lorra lolly beef

Crowd: A Lorra lolly beef

Queen: A Lorra lolly beef ablindadata!

Crowd: Alorrlollybffandandatadada!

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u/AliBarberTheSecond Oct 02 '22

And dancing, they rotoscoped the animation over it

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u/Si3rr4 Oct 02 '22

Even the bit where he turned into a necklace? 🫣

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u/AliBarberTheSecond Oct 02 '22

ESPECIALLY that

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u/GforceDz Oct 02 '22

In fact they had to ask him to stop doing that. It was kinda of his thing at parties.

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u/tucker_frump Oct 02 '22

If he kept it up they'd call him a Cab.

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u/ccReptilelord Oct 02 '22

He was a very talented man.

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u/PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL Oct 02 '22

They made him do it when he auditioned for Blues Brothers and didn't even use it in the movie.

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u/HintOfAreola Oct 02 '22

Cutting that footage is the worst thing John Landis has ever done.

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u/Funandgeeky Oct 02 '22

I hate myself for laughing at this comment. Well played.

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u/TheEarlOfCamden Oct 02 '22

Didn’t the creators of this invent rotoscoping themselves?

It’s amazing how it enables them to capture his movements so recognisably on characters that are substantially non humanoid, especially in the Minnie the Moocher one where he is a walrus.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Spren Oct 02 '22

Max and Dave Fleisher. Also "follow the bouncing ball" was theirs.

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u/ethbullrun Oct 02 '22

good call. ima listen to minnie the moocher right now from the blues brother movie

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u/C0meAtM3Br0 Oct 02 '22

Hidey hidey hidey ho!

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u/Dr_who_fan94 Oct 02 '22

and now I want to rewatch the movie itself. I'm gonna have search through so much stuff!

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u/Scyhaz Oct 02 '22

There's also a Betty Boop cartoon where he sings that!

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u/tucci007 Oct 02 '22

it's great they put him in the Blues Bros so modern generations could appreciate why he was such a huge star

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u/Frantic_Mantid Oct 02 '22

He's like 80 there and still kills it!

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u/throwawayinthe818 Oct 02 '22

I got to see him perform at a club in the late 1980s. It’s kind of amazing to think that I got to see someone who was playing the Savoy Ballroom in the 1920s. I will say that he was pretty old, he still had the power but not the verbal speed, and his daughter kinda carried the show, but still, Cab Fucking Calloway.

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u/woolfchick75 Oct 02 '22

He lived next door to a relative of mine. He took them trick or treating once when they were kids.

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u/PM_ME_UR_POKIES_GIRL Oct 02 '22

That whole movie kills it. Not a bad moment in it.

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u/Reverend_Mikey Oct 02 '22

I watched the Blues Brothers as a kid (probably 8 or 9?), and it opened up a whole world of music discovery. Every parent should watch it with their kids.

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u/Funandgeeky Oct 02 '22

"One prophylactic. Used"

"What's that?"

"Um...look, a car chase!"

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u/3rdRockfromYourMom Oct 02 '22

I love his voice and style of singing.

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u/spanky2088 Oct 02 '22

What on the acid trip did I just watch?

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u/The_Turk2 Oct 02 '22

I find early 20th c. cartoons to be strangely very, very creepy and dark. Even Steam Boat Willy (Micky Mouse) gives me these kind of bad vibes.

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u/RedCascadian Oct 02 '22

A lot of artists served in world War one.

And that war did a number on the western psyche.

I remember when cartoon network would have hours of classic cartoons and you'd go from wacky, zany hijinks to suddenly being an 8 year old watching some absolutely terrifying art piece meant to represent the all-onsuming, mechanistic alienation of a factory.

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u/Funandgeeky Oct 02 '22

There's a lot of old cartoons where a character is basically run through a machine or some kind of horrifying process. I wonder if this is those animators working through how they felt being part of that war.

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u/cheerinos Oct 02 '22

Same. Pretty much any animation from before about the 1940s is deeply unsettling to me in a way I can’t quite put my finger on.

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u/stormblaz Oct 02 '22

Thats because late 50s Disney did the "animation rules for all their animation and principles of animation" basically a set of rules on how characters should NOT feel floaty, need weight, values, gravity and other factors. Then every other animator followed this set of principlea and is now industry standard to animate based on such principles.

Kind of like putting Doctype at beguinning of website (when coding) as a generally accepted rule.

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u/Starbyslave Oct 02 '22

Hey! That’s my great uncle!

I’ve actually never really heard his work so this is pretty neat.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

Cab Calloway is your great uncle and you've never really heard his work? Please explain

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u/Bluest_waters Oct 02 '22

yeah that is pretty wild if true

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u/Free-Dog2440 Oct 02 '22

He's the reason we're all here!

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u/OMGlookatthatrooster Oct 02 '22

Yeah, lots of fucking going on when playing Cab.

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u/Free-Dog2440 Oct 02 '22

My comment wasn't that expansive lol

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u/spin81 Oct 02 '22

In that case, the first Blues Brothers movie is worth a watch. Your great uncle absolutely kills it in that IMO and the big scene he is in was more important to me in my youth than you might expect.

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u/standard_candles Oct 02 '22

Hey that's really cool! I'm a youngish person and I've always loved his music, mainly because my dad was an illustrator and showed me this when I was a kid. There's more to discover!

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u/C0meAtM3Br0 Oct 02 '22

Thought so

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u/MyCleverNewName Oct 02 '22

Like modern musicians appearing on the Simpsons, but so much better.

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u/Hendrix6927 Oct 02 '22

Looking fly in those Zoot suits. I remember old cartoons always had characters wearing these.

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u/TimKnalli Oct 02 '22

The amount of creativity in this is amazing

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u/drew146 Oct 02 '22

This is probably my favorite animated scene ever. Everything about it is just so mesmerizing and the music is just perfect. Fantastic piece of art for sure.

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u/Much-Shopping3475 Oct 02 '22

It makes me scratch my head so many times. What the fuck happen to creativity nowadays? This short cartoon is so rich.

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u/PMMeShyNudes Oct 02 '22

What the fuck happen to creativity nowadays?

Absolutely nothing. Humans are just as creative now.

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u/Leeono Oct 02 '22

Love this old style animation.

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u/RoamLikeRomeo Oct 02 '22

It's like they were on LSD when doing them?!

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u/tucci007 Oct 02 '22

rotoscope of actual footage of Calloway dancing

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u/stomponator Oct 02 '22

Nobody could rock a zoot suit like Cab Calloway.

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u/DoodleSnap Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

It was crazy when Cab would tie his legs in knots like that on stage

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u/TBSJJK Oct 02 '22

I already read that on a toppier comment.

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u/notsteven13 Oct 02 '22

But..... Did you read that it was actual footage of Cab Calloway that was rotoscoped? I had not until I read my comment.

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u/magic00008 Oct 02 '22

But this was posted 3 hrs earlier, so the toppier comment is the bot I guess?

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u/tinymothrafairy Oct 02 '22

Some of them were.

Many moons ago I attended a memorial for a Disney voice over artist. While there I met a bunch of cool old guys who worked at Disney and Chuck Jones, etc. These old guys were swapping stories about how back in the day the animators would drop acid and bring their dogs to work and watch them play eat etc. Then they would draw what they saw. I wish I had spent more time talking to these guys but I was pretty young and stupid.

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u/QueenCloneBone Oct 02 '22

Cool but acid wasn’t synthesized yet when this was made, they’re just insane lol

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u/singulardickdude Oct 02 '22

Cocaine and heroin on the other hand...

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u/Ultravioletgray Oct 02 '22

I hate to break it to you, but we are getting old. "Many moons ago" could be the nineties or even after, and the old dudes could have been drawing in the sixties and seventies when acid was around.

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u/RedCascadian Oct 02 '22

I'm 33 and already my pop culture references are aging out.

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u/MinorSpaceNipples Oct 02 '22

He didn't say that the old guys were claiming to have done this on 1933, it could very well have been in the 60s which I don't find hard to believe at all.

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u/GolgiApparatus1 Oct 02 '22

You really think his anecdote was about animators from the 30s? 'Old guys' would be an understatement...

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u/KrispyKremeDiet20 Oct 02 '22

Maybe lead poisoning lol

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u/caspy7 Oct 02 '22

My very first thought upon watching this was that folks probably should not watch this on LSD.

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u/sixsentience Oct 02 '22

Yeah this is the trippiest animation especially without sound lol

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u/KrispyKremeDiet20 Oct 02 '22

Nope, LSD was first synthesized in 1938 and it was a few years still before its nature as a psychedelic was discovered... Maybe mushrooms though

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u/GolgiApparatus1 Oct 02 '22

But probably not. I mean they are artists after all, and you don't need to be high to create something trippy if you have a natural talent for it. Heironymous Bosch for example.

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u/SilenceDobad76 Oct 02 '22

Or hear me out, they were creative

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u/Bardic_Inspiration66 Oct 02 '22

LSD wasn’t even invented yet some people are just creative

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u/TheMatt561 Oct 02 '22

Have you played Cuphead?

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u/Leeono Oct 02 '22

Yes great game.

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u/TheMatt561 Oct 02 '22

And absolutely gorgeous

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u/PistacieRisalamande Oct 02 '22

If you like it. Check cuphead, both the game and the TV show. It's full of this.

But man, that shuffle... It's just hypnotizing!

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u/Tschetchko Oct 02 '22

The witch rowing in the air is exactly how I feel like in nightmares

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u/Sovreign_ Oct 02 '22

Damn this is mesmerizing. That footwork is on point.

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u/Mynuszero Oct 02 '22

It’s called “Rotoscoping”. They had Cab Calloway sing and dance while they filmed it. Then the animators drew Cab’s movement frame by frame.

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u/JillingJacks Oct 02 '22

That morphing-into-a-giant-hanging-medallion technique has sadly been lost to time, though.

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u/DeadPoolRN Oct 02 '22

Old-school "motion capture"

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u/campionmusic51 Oct 02 '22

painfully fucking cool.

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u/60svintage Oct 02 '22

I love this old cartoon. Cab Calloway singing St James Infirmary. The almost psychedelic animation.

This is amazing foe something close to 90 years old.

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u/FequalsMfreakingA Oct 02 '22

It's so old that the $20 gold piece on his watch chain would be worth $455 in 2022 dollars

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u/jswhitfi Oct 02 '22

The $20 gold piece I think he's referring to is 33 grams, 90% gold. So it's about 30 grams of gold. At the current price of about $53, it's over $1500 in just gold alone. Neat!

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u/UnspecifiedIndex Oct 02 '22

A tattoo artist tattooed that animation on a load of people. Never knew the original source.

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u/LivePerformances Oct 02 '22

It’s a pretty common thing to get tattooed. I have one of the ghost dude doing a handstand.

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u/macarena_twerking Oct 02 '22

What they mean is that a tattoo artist did each individual frame as a tattoo on his customers so that when he took pictures of the tattoos he could play it back as the animation

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u/crypt0dab Oct 02 '22

This is equal parts amazing and haunting.

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u/timetobuyale Oct 02 '22

Were people kind of losing their minds over this type of motion? Nothing had ever been done like this in the history of humanity and then BAM - you get this crazy shit

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u/thegodofwine7 Oct 02 '22

That new Cuphead DLC is weird af yo

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u/LOTRfreak101 Oct 02 '22

Actually isn't this pretty normal for cuphead?

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u/AqUaNtUmEpIc Oct 02 '22

Turned clown man into a Fresno Nightcrawler

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u/rattymcratface Oct 02 '22

Betty Boop was some trippy shit

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u/UniverseNextD00r Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

Yep, my friends and I love to get high and put Betty Boop on the projector. Sometimes we watch with original sound and sometimes we put on trippy music and just watch the videos.

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u/ferretpowder Oct 02 '22

This is amazing! Were all Betty boop cartoons like this? Or was this a special episode or something?

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u/Verite_Rendition Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

Not all of them were like this. But 30s animation in general could get pretty surreal. It was a young format, and the animators were (understandably) still focused on playing around with things that couldn't be done in live action. Keep in mind that when this short came out, "talkies" were only 6 years old at the time!

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u/shinobipopcorn Oct 02 '22

A lot of the old ones were. Most of these shorts were made for adults, whereas Disney's Silly Symphonies were family friendly and Looney Tunes could go either way.

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u/Mr_Dr_Rocket_Surgeon Oct 02 '22

ok, this is creepy as fuck

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u/MeminUniverseSU Oct 02 '22

But in the best way possible

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u/Mr_Dr_Rocket_Surgeon Oct 02 '22

It's awesome, I love it. The scrolling cave background alone has so many little details in it.

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u/See_i_did Oct 02 '22

It’s an awesome music video from before we had music videos that happens to be creepier than most music videos nowadays, lol. Nice find.

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u/NerdGirlontheRun Oct 02 '22

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u/Growe731 Oct 02 '22

Even more so when you understand the song is about a dude realizing he’s about to die from VD.

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u/RoboticTerrorist Oct 02 '22

What is VD?

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u/3rdRockfromYourMom Oct 02 '22

Venereal disease... or Valentine's Day.

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u/woodnote Oct 02 '22

Venereal disease, I believe.

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u/erakattack Oct 02 '22

Van Damme

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u/lionbacker54 Oct 02 '22

Thank you. I thought I was the only one

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

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u/Mayor_Of_Furtown Oct 02 '22

This is my first time hearing the original, only ever seen it on that song

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u/aerodeck Oct 02 '22

You dropped an E

Ghostemane

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u/UniverseBear Oct 02 '22

I love this show. It was so ahead of its time and surreal. You can see a bunch of full episodes in YouTube.

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u/CorbinDalla5 Oct 02 '22

The background is wild

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u/PuffTheMagicJuju Oct 02 '22

Oh damn, I’ve seen this like four times and never noticed the background

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u/Teufelkuss Oct 02 '22

There are awesome versions of St. James Infirmary by jazz greats George Lewis, Jack Teagarden, Louis Armstrong (of course) as well as a brilliant take on the song with the star ensemble of Count Basie, Dizzy Gillespie, Mickey Roker and Ray Brown.

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u/MeminUniverseSU Oct 02 '22

This one’s definitely my favorite. Cab Calloway rocks

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u/Holiday-Wrongdoer-46 Oct 02 '22

Then you should look up Dave Van Ronk's version. IMHO he has the overwhelming best version. His is called gambler's blues

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u/Juicythaigap Oct 02 '22

Jack white does an excellent cover!

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u/Ulysseus_47 Oct 02 '22

Louis Armstrong one is amazing. I like the original too but the LA one is just beautiful

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u/tfyvonchali Oct 02 '22

Hugh Laurie from House also does a wonderful version

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u/Indie_Builds Oct 02 '22

Ghostmane has this pieced into a music video and it went hard. That was a few years ago. Cool to see the original work.

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u/MooseCantBlink Oct 02 '22

Was looking for this comment. Shit dropped hard and seeing the original makes it even cooler how well it fitted Ghostmane

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u/Dreddbeat Oct 02 '22

The music video was actually fan made and started the whole vibe for ghostemanes earlier stuff. Love it!

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

How could something so creepy be so fucking awesome?

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u/MexicanGuey92 Oct 02 '22

The coolest shot for me was when he was saying "hand me a shot of that booooooooooze!" And his "oooooo" turned into the opening of the bottle. Crazy creative

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u/KingAltair2255 Oct 02 '22

I absolutely love the way animation was when everyone was still figuring stuff out, was less about a story and more about just looking visually interesting, it’s amazing to think how far we’ve came in less than 100yrs.

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u/Confusedandreticent Oct 02 '22

This is bittersweet beauty, the details in the background, the skill of the artists, the vocalist’s voice is smooth af; all meant for an audience and medium that will probably not last another century.

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u/duck_shuck Oct 02 '22

Interesting because Disney’s Snow White didn’t come out until 1938. It was a very popular fairy tale prior to that.

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u/shiner820 Oct 02 '22

Trippy, indded. Never seen evidence of hallucinogens from the 30's before.

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u/Jsimpson059 Oct 02 '22

LSD had not been invented yet, but I wouldnt put it past them to have experiemented with shrooms considering they grow practically everywhere.

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u/MeminUniverseSU Oct 02 '22

A lot of old cartoons involved the animators using hallucinogens to give it that trippy and somewhat unsettling effect

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u/Pretzilla Oct 02 '22

I'm sure Cab set them up with some jazz cigarettes

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u/joejimbobjones Oct 02 '22

Which hallucinogens though? Through this thread people are pointing out that LSD wasn't synthesised, mushrooms and ketamine weren't widely known or available until the 1950s. Peyote? Not really compatible with work. And not really known until the 1960s.

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u/RabidMortal Oct 02 '22

You have a source for this? Would love to learn more

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u/LuchadoresdeSilinas Oct 02 '22

Used to watch this cartoon and other 30’s U.S. cartoons in Mexico in the 70s

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u/dinosaur-hajj Oct 02 '22

Man I see so many things here from Michael Jackson to Jake the Dog

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u/ichkanns Oct 02 '22

That animation is wild. I wonder if they used rotoscoping for the movements. If not, that's super impressive that they got the motion to look that lifelike without it.

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u/MeminUniverseSU Oct 02 '22

Good eye! They did use rotoscoping. They rotoscoped Cab Calloway’s (the person singing’s) dancing

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u/Frostygale Oct 02 '22

They did.

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u/Mrrandom314159 Oct 02 '22

I swear you can see the human who they traced for the dance moves at points.

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u/MeminUniverseSU Oct 02 '22

That’s actually because they used a technique called rotoscoping. They animated over the dancing of the singer, Cab Calloway. Really gives it that unsettling effect they were going for

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u/peeneesman Oct 02 '22

What´s the name of the song in the background?

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u/TheCyanKnight Oct 02 '22

St James Infirmary by Cab Calloway (who also provided the moves for the dance)

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u/dikarich Oct 02 '22

I love the part at the end when he Oooooooooo-s and his face turns into a bottle

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u/Tidesticky Oct 02 '22

Looks like a moonwalk prequel

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u/Frostygale Oct 02 '22

That’s because it is!

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u/Doot-Doot-the-channl Oct 02 '22

Saint James infirmary is a banger and this is a great version

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u/GforceDz Oct 02 '22

Hard to believe LSD was only discovered 8 years later.

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u/carrotstix Oct 02 '22

It's amazing how smoothly animated it is. Look at those lips when he's singing, it mimics the movement of the mouth perfectly. And this is in 1933? Damn, animation is something else!

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u/strawberryoblivion Oct 02 '22

Is there a specific sub for more stuff like this?

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u/MeminUniverseSU Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

I don’t know, but there should be. Perhaps there’s like an r/AnimationHistory subreddit? If not I’ll make one

Edit: Made it!

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u/kotonizna Oct 02 '22

I'm joining!

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u/mcknightrider Oct 02 '22

This is a fucking fever dream of an animation

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u/Inspector_Kelp Oct 02 '22

Outstanding!

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u/tillacat42 Oct 02 '22

Am I the only one who finds the acid trip animation in old cartoons horrifying? I used to have nightmares from watching this stuff as a kid.

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u/Muffin-Sprinkles Oct 02 '22

Some of it is pretty creepy.

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u/Raccoon_Army_Leader Oct 02 '22

Yep I know all the effort and talent of the people who made it is cool but I can’t watch this stuff, totally creeps me out. I’ll probably see the ghost guy in a nightmare soon haha

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u/ferretpowder Oct 02 '22

This is absolutely oozing with style

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u/gmoney1259 Oct 02 '22

This cat doing moonwalk

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u/its_5oclock_sumwhere Oct 02 '22

Hot Dayum, dude’s got legs that go ALL the way up!

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u/BMac02 Oct 02 '22

Haven’t I see a tattoo artist that remade this on several people and then filmed it??

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u/CLXIX Oct 02 '22

man this shit was so ahead of its time

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u/Lurkwurst Oct 02 '22

Anyone got an idea for a significance for the numeral 20 on the medallion? I'm curious. Also: Cab Calloway's autobiography is a fascinating read. He was the Real Deal!

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u/4x4Welder Oct 02 '22

$20 gold piece. He was singing about it.

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u/Lurkwurst Oct 02 '22

Thank you! I was on mute cuz sleeping people nearby. Love this animation

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u/4x4Welder Oct 02 '22

It's really worth a listen, that guy can sing.

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u/SomeWaterIsGood Oct 02 '22

Betty Boop is hot. Just commenting for a friend.

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u/nextwiggin4 Oct 02 '22

He said “put a 20 dollar gold piece on a chain”, adjusted for inflation that’s like $450 today.

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u/PuddlesIsHere Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

HEY BOI HAND ME OVER ANOTHER SHOT OF THAT OOOWOOOOWOOOOO

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u/Crypto_Creepa Oct 02 '22

The drugs they had in the 30's were amazing.

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u/DDRPriest Oct 02 '22

Fleischer Studios did this animation. They were the closest rival to Disney before the Big D gave the Fleishers the L. They did some amazing work during their existence though.

My mom showed me this as a kid and I still love it to this day. Cab was such a talent.

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u/TheHornet78 Oct 02 '22

I love Saint James Infirmary!

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u/groomleader Oct 02 '22

As soon as I heard that voice, I knew that was Cab Calloway! Once you hear that voice, you can always recognize his special, very cool style!

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u/anosmiasucks Oct 02 '22

Absolute first thing I thought of was Cab singing Minnie The Moocher!

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u/Zombingaround Oct 02 '22

This is Adult Swim material

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u/Prudent-Giraffe7287 Oct 02 '22

It’s hard to believe we’re watching something from almost 90 years ago.

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u/Evolvingjoker Oct 02 '22

Is there a name for these kinda vids ? Old style cartoon ?

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u/Nutsquig Oct 02 '22

Imagine watching this after some shrooms...

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u/Casual_Competitive Oct 02 '22

And the people who grew up watching this are the ones who banned psychedelics

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u/xsvirus666 Oct 02 '22

DlC for cuphead.

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u/horsefacE_Ethel Oct 02 '22

Behold rotoscoping

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u/VanceXentan Oct 02 '22

There's something about classical cartoons that are pleasing to watch

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u/Flokismom Oct 02 '22

Why is my nightmare being an underdressed pretty lady in a box being carried by tiny identical old men while being chased by a horny weird asshole in a clown suit.

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u/Bakomusha Oct 02 '22

Chad Flicher vs virgin Disney!

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u/dandroid_design Oct 02 '22

It's interesting that something almost(ish) a hundred years old influences modern pop culture. Ghostmane's video, and Puddles Pity Party...I imagine there are plenty of other examples.

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u/Climbincook Oct 02 '22

Anytime i see her or the clown i think the album el oson from soul coughing- the video for circle iirc

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u/Arcadian_Parallax Oct 02 '22

Bro that clown got the drip

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u/rachel_tenshun Oct 02 '22

Rotoscope will always be so evocative to me. It's so human yet so artificial. The original uncanny Valley.

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u/dub_side Oct 02 '22

The guys that made this were on some good shit