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Discussions [MAJOR SPOILERS] What 'The War of the Rohirrim' is based on - Tolkien's writings within


MAJOR SPOILERS WITHIN! Continue at own risk...


Official Synopsis:

This movie covers the bloody saga behind Helm’s Deep, the fortress from The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, and the man in whose honor it’s named: Helm Hammerhand, the legendary King of Rohan.


The film will be "sticking to official canon within our story of Helm", according to the producer.


Below contains a segment from 'Appendix A' of LOTR: 'The House of Eorl'. These writings are what 'The War of the Rohirrim' will be based on, according to the synopsis above. Note: the full scope of the show is unknown (it may or may not encompass the entirety of the passage below).

'Of the Kings of the Mark between Eorl and Théoden most is said of Helm Hammerhand. He was a grim man of great strength. There was at that time a man named Freca, who claimed descent from King Freawine, though he had, men said, much Dunlendish blood, and was dark-haired. He grew rich and powerful, having wide lands on either side of the Adorn.37 Near its source he made himself a stronghold and paid little heed to the king. Helm mistrusted him, but called him to his councils; and he came when it pleased him.

'To one of these councils Freca rode with many men, and he asked the hand of Helm's daughter for his son Wulf. But Helm said: "You have grown big since you were last here; but it is mostly fat, I guess"; and men laughed at that, for Freca was wide in the belt.

'Then Freca fell in a rage and reviled the king, and said this at the last: "Old kings that refuse a proffered staff may fall on their knees." Helm answered: "Come! The marriage of your son is a trifle. Let Helm and Freca deal with it later. Meanwhile the king and his council have matters of moment to consider."

'When the council was over, Helm stood up and laid his great hand on Freca's shoulder, saying: "The king does not permit brawls in his house, but men are freer outside"; and he forced Freca to walk before him out from Edoras into the field. To Freca's men that came up he said: "Be off! We need no hearers. We are going to speak of a private matter alone. Go and talk to my men!" And they looked and saw that the king's men and his friends far outnumbered them, and they drew back.

'"Now, Dunlending," said the king, "you have only Helm to deal with, alone and unarmed. But you have said much already, and it is my turn to speak. Freca, your folly has grown with your belly. You talk of a staff! If Helm dislikes a crooked staff that is thrust on him, he breaks it. So!" With that he smote Freca such a blow with his fist that he fell back stunned, and died soon after.

'Helm then proclaimed Freca's son and near kin the king's enemies; and they fled, for at once Helm sent many men riding to the west marches.'

Four years later (2758) great troubles came to Rohan, and no help could be sent from Gondor, for three fleets of the Corsairs attacked it and there was war on all its coasts. At the same time Rohan was again invaded from the East, and the Dunlendings seeing their chance came over the Isen and down from Isengard. It was soon known that Wulf was their leader. The were in great force, for they were joined by enemies of Gondor that landed in the mouths of Lefnui and Isen.

The Rohirrim were defeated and their land was overrun; and those who were not slain or enslaved fled to the dales of the mountains. Helm was driven back with great loss from the Crossings of Isen and took refuge in the Hornburg and the ravine behind (which was after known as Helm's Deep). There he was besieged. Wulf took Edoras and sat in Meduseld and called himself king. There Haleth Helm's son fell, last of all, defending the doors.

'Soon afterwards the Long Winter began, and Rohan lay under snow for nearly five months (November to March, 2758-9). Both the Rohirrim and their foes suffered grievously in the cold, and in the dearth that lasted longer. In Helm's Deep there was a great hunger after Yule; and being in despair, against the king's counsel, Hama his younger son led men out on a sortie and foray, but they were lost in the snow. Helm grew fierce and gaunt for famine and grief; and the dread of him alone was worth many men in the defence of the Burg. He would go out by himself, clad in white, and stalk like a snow-troll into the camps of his enemies, and slay many men with his hands. It was believed that if he bore no weapon no weapon would bite on him. The Dunlendings said that if he could find no food he ate men. That tale lasted long in Dunland. Helm had a great horn, and soon it was marked that before he sallied forth he would blow a blast upon it that echoed in the Deep; and then so great a fear fell on his enemies that instead of gathering to take him or kill him they fled away down the Coomb.

'One night men heard the horn blowing, but Helm did not return. In the morning there came a sun-gleam, the first for long days, and they saw a white figure standing still on the Dike, alone, for none of the Dunlendings dared come near. There stood Helm, dead as a stone, but his knees were unbent. Yet men said that the horn was still heard at times in the Deep and the wraith of Helm would walk among the foes of Rohan and kill men with fear.

'Soon after the winter broke. Then Fréaláf, son of Hild, Helm's sister, came down out of Dunharrow, to which many had fled; and with a small company of desperate men he surprised Wulf in Meduseld and slew him, and regained Edoras. There were great floods after the snows, and the vale of Entwash became a vast fen. The Eastern invaders perished or withdrew; and there came help at last from Gondor, by the roads both east and west of the mountains. Before the year (2759) was ended the Dunlendings were driven out, even from Isengard; and then Fréaláf became king.

'Helm was brought from the Hornburg and laid in the ninth mound. Ever after the white simbelmyne grew there most thickly, so that the mound seemed to be snow-clad. When Fréaláf died a new line of mounds was begun.'

The Rohirrim were grievously reduced by war and dearth and loss of cattle and horses; and it was well that no great danger threatened them again for many years, for it was not until the time of King Folcwine that they recovered their former strength.

It was at the crowning of Fréaláf that Saruman appeared, bringing gifts, and speaking great praise of the valour of the Rohirrim. All thought him a welcome guest. Soon after he took up his abode in Isengard. For this, Beren, Steward of Gondor, gave him leave, for Gondor still claimed Isengard as a fortress of its realm, and not part of Rohan. Beren also gave into Saruman's keeping the keys of Orthanc. That tower no enemy had been able to harm or to enter.

r/TWOTR Oct 24 '22

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r/TWOTR Aug 21 '22

News Alex Jordan to perform original role in The War of the Rohirrim

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News ‘The Lord Of The Rings: The War Of The Rohirrim’: Anime Voice Cast Counts Brian Cox, Gaia Wise, Miranda Otto & More

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r/TWOTR Jun 15 '22

Discussions I'm so excited


I don't watch anime but this is def something i would like

667 days till release!

r/TWOTR Jun 01 '22

News Fellowship of Fans: IMDb currently lists (unconfirmed) Alexandre Desplat as composer for The War of the Rohirrim

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r/TWOTR Mar 20 '22

Discussions Saruman and The War of the Rohirrim | Lord of the Rings Rings of Power on Amazon Prime News, JRR Tolkien, The Hobbit and more | TheOneRing.net

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r/TWOTR Feb 21 '22

Other What a breath of fresh air this is - God Save TWOTR


God speed fellow riders of rohan,

This has the heart and soul of Tolkien - I can feel it in the air

Arise sons of Rohan

Soon Glory shall be had!

It is a red day - A good day ! and the sun rises!

we just have to wait until 2024 :'(

Love to you all

r/TWOTR Feb 18 '22

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r/TWOTR Feb 17 '22

Discussions lord of the rings war of the Rohirrim


So is there any news about Tom Shippey being involved hope so seen as amazon kicked him?

r/TWOTR Feb 14 '22

News 'Lord of the Rings' Anime Feature Gets Release Date From Warner Bros.

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r/TWOTR Jan 13 '22

Discussions Do we have any idea of when this will be released?


When the film was announced it was allegedly put on the fast track, if I recall correctly. In the film industry, that can mean a lot or nothing at all—it’s just hard to know.

But I was wondering if someone more plugged in than I had an idea of the time frame.

r/TWOTR Aug 21 '21

Discussions Possible Storyline?


I'm intentionally not looking too deep into what few story details have been revealed so I might be off if the makers of the movie are taking some creative liberties but this seems like the War that the movie is going to feature in my opinion:


I personally think it sounds really cool. I'm actually so hyped for the new movie I'm planning to rewatch the others soon lol Also if it's been said this is the War they're adapting or not and I just haven't seen it, again wanting to keep rather in dark as a much as possible for now, than cool.

r/TWOTR Aug 14 '21

Other One thing that hypes me


Like many people, the animated movies of the late 1970's and early 80's were my first introduction to Middle Earth. Ralph Bakshi's 1978 film is still one I greatly enjoy because I saw it before the live action films. Deep down, I've always wanted to see another animated Middle Earth movie so knowing that one is happening makes me extra hyped because the animated films hold a special place in my heart alongside everything else Middle Earth. Maybe I'm alone in feeling this way but the thought of a new animated Middle Earth movie actually happening just makes me happy.

r/TWOTR Aug 10 '21

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r/TWOTR Jun 14 '21

Discussions How much will this pull from the Appendices?


It's interesting they're doing this, just wondering how much they'll pull from the appendices. And if they do, could this be the first in a series of films based on the appendices.

r/TWOTR Jun 14 '21

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r/TWOTR Jun 14 '21

Discussions Interesting Past Quotes From The Writers


When working on The Dark Crystal the writers had this to say about the lore:

"You want to get the details right for the fans,” concluded Matthews, “But you don’t want to include so many that you overwhelm new audiences. The goal is to invite people into this rich world, not hand them homework to do before they can have fun.

I believe this should be the expectation of the community here. That's the balancing act of for shows and movies like this anime or even a series like the Amazon Lord of the Rings show coming up. They will try to match lore as closely as they can but there may be things added/left out to make the stories as accessible as possible to new fans.

r/TWOTR Jun 13 '21

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r/TWOTR Jun 13 '21

Announcement Another TWOTR subreddit seems to be mimicking the r/TWOTR subreddit!


The Information section of the r/TheWarOfTheRohirrim seems to be mimicking our community's information section of the subreddit. It almost word for word and format a direct copy of the our information section. I would like to shed some light on this issue that was brought to my attention. I would like the members of this community to ignore this subreddit as the mods seem to allow this form of plagiarism on their subreddit.

UPDATE: They also seem to be reposting a lot of our member's post to claim as "OC", joining the Tolkien discord spamming thier subreddit multiple times then leaving.

Thier mod tries to push thier agenda on multiple tolkien subreddit just to spam links to thier subreddit as you can see here on a removed thread over on r/tolkienfans.

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