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The movies definitely have their flaws but I’ve recently read the hobbit and the LOTR books and I absolutely loved the hobbit but the LOTR books were masterpieces but they weren’t as interesting and didn’t have the “I want to keep reading” type of feeling would you agree? Or do you like the hobbit better for another reason?
Hi im deep into research about the hobbit and this has been frustrating me for ages - does Thorin's horse have a name? Bilbo's is Myrtle, Gandalf's is Rohald then Shadowfax, but I cannot find for the life of me the name of the horse that Thorin has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogTDa-vG2MQ Goblins quaff, and Goblins beat
Goblins laugh, and Goblins bleat
Batter, jabber, whip, and taver hoooooo!!! Down down to Goblin-town
It's been 10 years, can you believe it? I made a tribute arrangement of the Hobbit theme to commemorate the occasion. What do you guys think?youtube.com
The Hobbit (1966)- The only film adaptation of JRR Tolkien’s work in his lifetime was a 12-minute film using mostly still images. It was lost until 2012.youtu.be
I think the instrumentation called out in the book is actually highly underrated, and a lot of people just assume that it would be cheesy or sing-songy with the instruments. I disagree, strongly. The instruments are as follows:
- 1 Harp, played by Thorin
- 3 Flutes
- 2 Clarinets
- 2 Fiddles
- 2 Viols (as big as themselves)
- 1 Drum
2 viols as big as dwarves are going to still be pretty big instruments - and what this means is that they'll be larger viols with a bigger, deeper sound.
Here's a piece for Viols alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_E877TUqfU&ab_channel=VoicesofMusic
Like a cello in sound, but with the gut strings, they sound so much older and organic, more haunting.
Here's an instrumental that has most of the called out instruments, plus and minus a couple things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe7nP4tBRxE&ab_channel=VoicesofMusic
This is a really cool composition that also pretty well illustrates what Misty Mountains could have sounded like to Tokien's taste:
I'd imagine just a deeper sound with the Dwarves singing/playing than this.
Overall, I've always loved the original composition for the movies (which is not actually just Howard Shore, but also David Long, Plan 9 did the song, not sure how Neil Finn fits in, I've tried figuring out exactly how it happened). But, I think after I listened to it and sang it a bunch (there's not a lot of bass-music that is easy to sing!), I started thinking about how I would approach it.
To me the music also has more movement and rhythm, and its a very wordy song that has to fit a lot of different moods, i.e. in the Hobbit when they leave Crickhollow, Merry and Pippin sing a version of the song before they leave, and I feel that the tone is less suited to their context leaving the shire "Farewell we call... to Hearth and hall.... Though wind may blow... and rain may fall. We must away, ere break of day, far over wood and mountain tall." It's a solemn song of departure mixed with hope, and with a resolution to carry out what must be needed to, and that tone is also the Misty Mountains, as well as the remembrance of the Sack of Erebor.
The Song of Durin, however, is a chant (as Gimli literally chants it) and has the same lyrical structure as "Over the Misty Mountains Cold," and hence more fits the chant-like song that was made for the movie. "No stain yet on the moon was seen" to the same melody as "to dungeons deep and caverns old" to me is even more haunting and appropriate.
Anyways... I'm just a big fan of Historically Informed Performances of music in general, where people just go for this extra level of historical accuracy in their performances of historical music - I feel like the same mindset and attraction is now driving me to want to develop a similar approach for Lord of the Rings music. So... there were always really good recordings of Bach before this movement, but the music that came out of this movement, in my opinion, mind-blowingly beautiful.
So... I guess my little personal project is to try applying a similar mentality to Tolkien's works, and aim at achieving something like that... with help, of course. :)
A few Middle-Earth glass artworks by myself, created with real gold & other precious metals on glass. Hope you like them 🙂gallery
so I bought the first LOTR book but didn't realize I needed to go through the hobbit first. I'm not a book worm so I'm challenging myself to finish that LOTR book, as I struggle with reading.
I was looking to "speed run" the hobbit movie so I can jump into reading, but do I need to watch all of the hobbit movies to then start LOTR? or can I just watch the first hobbit movie and then jump to LOTR?
I'd like to finish everything eventually. as far as I'm aware there's one hobbit book but 3 movies? I hope all of this makes sense, any info is appreciated!!!
sometimes you wonder if to start The Hobbit at 2am is wise, then you think "why not just one chapter?" but at the end you know it won't be just one chapter
Benedict Cumberbatch did an amazing job as well
First scene from the Fall of Fëanor by Tales of the Rings
My friend read The Hobbit and told me about this character called “Terry” I asked who he was because I’ve never heard of him in the reading so far (I’m only on chapter 12) but he said that Terry appears in an earlier chapter and I’ve never seen him. He also says that Terry is only talked about in the European version of the book. I tried looking up who this Terry person is but I found nothing. Anyone know who he is talking about?