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u/polkadotska ✨Glitter Witch✨ Oct 02 '22

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u/OtHanski Little-Bit-of-Everything Witch ☉ Oct 02 '22

Interesting, albeit not surprising. I suppose you shouldn't be taking activated charcoal with any medication for similar reasons.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Oct 02 '22

Don't take it, ever, unless under medical supervision for a handful of poisoning emergencies. It also prevents you from absorbing the nutrients in your food. It is not safe, and it is not a health product.

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u/DicmoVolant Oct 02 '22

Former EMT here. Anyone I've ever seen it used on vomited hard after. A lot of folks vomit from the dextrose too.

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u/I_Wupped_Batmans_Ass Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚧ Oct 03 '22

yep im sure you know this since you were an EMT, but for people who dont know; hospitals sometimes use activated charcoal to make overdose patients puke up whatever meds they overdosed on, if the patient is unable to or is refusing to induce vomiting themselves

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u/jareths_tight_pants Oct 03 '22

Sorry but this is only half true. I’ve had multiple OD patients receive charcoal. The charcoal is not given to induce vomiting. I’m fact we want it to stay in their GI system for several hours so it can work. We let it dwell for a few hours and then we repeat the process. Charcoal works when it binds to toxins. It can’t bind to toxins if we administer it and then they vomit. It needs to pass through the digestive system to work. Ideally it’s given within an hour of poisoning but we do give it as a Hail Mary sometimes as long as they’re conscious. It’s one of those can’t really hurt them might help sort of things for overdoses over an hour old.

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u/I_Wupped_Batmans_Ass Eclectic Witch ♀♂️☉⚧ Oct 03 '22

really? thats interesting! my mom's the one who told me that, because she had to drink the charcoal stuff at some point because she needed to puke something up. but it does make sense that its really meant to absorb the stuff thats making you sick lol

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u/jareths_tight_pants Oct 03 '22

A lot of them puke. It tastes terrible even with the flavoring they add. Oftentimes we put in a feeding tube through the nostril because people don’t want to drink it. You have to drink a lot of it too. It’s like half a liter over 4 hours or something like that.

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u/whatevercoolcartel Oct 04 '22

Yes. When my dog ate chocolate they first induced vomiting and then administered charcoal to bind whatever chocolate may have remained in his digestive tract.

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u/internetversionofme Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 03 '22

Person who has vomited charcoal. It's terrible, I can gut rodents for hours and then go and then go and eat a bagel but the memory of the taste and sensation of activated charcoal solution is forever burned into my memory forever. Even smelling it makes me cringe a decade later. Some ERs add cherry or orange syrup to it now to make it more palatable, since it needs to stay in your digestive system for a while to neutralize toxins. It doesn't.

Have talked to other people who have been administered an oral solution seen the life leave their eyes when I ask them about the cherry syrup. If you can't keep it down at all they sometimes will use a nosogastric tube which for me did help.

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u/Valkyriesride1 Oct 04 '22

When you do vomit activated charcoal, it is terrible. It sticks to everything, it the more you wipe it the more there seems to be, forget about the close you were wearing. Even with the brushes you use to scrub the charcoal, it still sticks like glue. One shift, I had take a hazmat shower with my best friend because the charcoal was in our hair, backs and faces and even in our ears. Our uniforms were ruined. Luckily, we had the outfits that we going to wear at a PRIDE event. We had pink shirts that said PAGAN QUEENS in rainbow letters and royal blue shorts.

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u/ResponsibleAd2541 Oct 02 '22

It’s a treatment for overdoses on various pills.

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u/OtHanski Little-Bit-of-Everything Witch ☉ Oct 02 '22

And on occasion other hazardous chemicals one might accidentally swallow.

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u/Formal-Awareness4771 Oct 03 '22

And importantly completely useless for others! It has no effect on say LSD overdoses for example which while not fatal can be extremely terrifying

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u/an_adult_on_reddit Oct 02 '22

Oddly enough, I take it when I have stomach issues. It seems to be the only thing to prevent some pretty foul flatulence.

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u/No-Acanthisitta-2517 Oct 03 '22

Ughhhhh don’t remind me. I poo’d black for a week straight 😩

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u/Jane_Fen Bookish Witch ♀☉⚧ Oct 02 '22

What - do people do this?

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u/CinderelRat Oct 02 '22

yeah be very mindful of any solid black drink

especially if it's advertised as detoxifying

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u/Luci_Hoomun Oct 02 '22

*slaps shot glass*

"This booze will neutralise so much chlorine gas"

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u/Scarbane Science Witch ♂️ Oct 02 '22

Is this a /r/historymemes crossover episode?

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u/maybebabyg Oct 02 '22

And antifreeze.

My friend who is a nurse told us about how she had a patient walk in after drinking antifreeze and the treatment was effectively IV vodka.

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u/cflatjazz Oct 02 '22

Yes. Two reasons. 1. Some people think it has detoxifying effects so they'll put it in random thinks like toothpaste or smoothies. 2. It does make an effective and mostly tasteless food colorant that gives you a cool black instead of brown black like chocolate or grey like food dye. So people will use it for Instagramable foods like cupcakes, macarons, pasta, ice cream, etc and Halloween special baked goods.

It's fine if you eat some and digest it before taking a medicine. But if you have both in you stomach at the same time, a significant amount of activated charcoal can absorb the medication so it doesnt reach your system

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u/Notquite_Caprogers Witch ☉ Oct 02 '22

Toothpaste at least makes sense. It's used for whitening and most people don't swallow their toothpaste after brushing

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u/unaware_unafraid Oct 02 '22

Some do for health reasons. But this time of year, it's probably some food or drink item that's been dyed black to be spooky

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u/wozattacks Oct 02 '22

I am not aware of any good evidence for health benefits of charcoal, unless you’re having an acute overdose.

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u/unaware_unafraid Oct 02 '22

That's because there really aren't. It just people convinced they need to "detox" from whatever toxins they've accumulated over the course of the day/week/year. Same as juice cleanse or whatever. Placebo effect

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u/OtHanski Little-Bit-of-Everything Witch ☉ Oct 02 '22

Yeah I mean the only reason to eat charcoal is to neutralize something you've eaten that you shouldn't have eaten. It's hardly tasty so not much of a reason to eat it to begin with :')

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u/batcostume Oct 02 '22

Don't eat it, and don't use charcoal toothpaste either. It literally strips away the enamel of your teeth

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u/recyclopath_ Oct 02 '22

It's life sanding your teeth

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u/Halzjones Oct 02 '22

Well would explain why the one time I tried using a charcoal toothbrush it made my gums sore and raw

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u/IReflectU Oct 02 '22

I don't understand why we have to have this conversations every year.

Because some of us are just now hearing it for the first time and it could save us some major problems. Sorry to inconvenience you with the repetition but this is genuinely helpful information.

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u/k5hill Oct 02 '22

First I’ve ever heard this. Really important to know!

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u/CinderelRat Oct 02 '22

no I get that part. the fact that it keeps happening is upsetting. every year these products are put out and it's incredible that they aren't shut down

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u/PerpetuallyLurking Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

If nothing else, there’s always a new set of brand new adults that might have been daydreaming during school hours. Give them a fucking break at least. We’ll continue to do it every year because every year there’s always new drinkers joining us in learning this shit. They’ve got to learn it sometime and they’re getting crammed with all sorts of other shit at the same time, some of its not gonna stick the first time during a boring ass chemistry class at 8:30 am Mondays. Of course we’re gonna reiterate it continuously. JFC.

They don’t get shut down because it’s perfectly safe. Depending on your medication you probably shouldn’t be drinking on it anyway, and there’s plenty of other shit one needs to watch out for when on meds too. I was once on a medication that reacted badly with grapefruit juice. Guess who was responsible for not drinking grapefruit juice? No one’s banned grapefruits because it reacts with medication, because it’s perfectly safe otherwise. Why would charcoal get banned just because it reacts with medication while remaining perfectly safe otherwise?

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u/wozattacks Oct 02 '22

I saw them more as being critically of the people who perennially promote the charcoal for marketing reasons, not the people who may unknowingly fall for it.

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u/Princess_Glitterbutt Oct 02 '22

I don't think anyone is upset at people who don't know, but the folks who keep perpetuating the trend because it makes them money deserve dirision.

Teenager planning a Halloween party - learning opportunity and nothing else. No reason to judge, just inform.

Business selling charcoal X, Y, Z? Culpable and deserves criticism. At the very least you should know what you're selling and promoting at that point.

It's frustrating because the businesses keep perpetuating it as not only safe but also healthy, necessitating others to teach the teenagers that it's not safe.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Oct 02 '22

Because it is not perfectly safe. It's horrible for you (prevents you from absorbing the nutrients in your food) and should only be consumed under medical supervision for emergencies. It is misinformation to state it is perfectly safe.

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u/recyclopath_ Oct 02 '22

It's also become much more common in recent years to put into products

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u/shadow1515 Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

I think it's more confusion over why this PSA is necessary given that in 35 years of life, neutralizing medication is literally the only reason I've ever heard of for someone to consume activated charcoal. Like, when you buy it at the store that's what it is labeled for. It's like having a PSA that bathing in sulphuric acid is dangerous.

Edit: I acknowledge my cultural insensitivity/ignorance. I had never heard of anything like this before.

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u/lacroixgrape Oct 02 '22

I keep charcoal pills in my first aid kit for this exact reason. In case a kid or pet eats something they shouldn't.

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u/xerion13 Kitchen Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

or ANY medication. It is quite literally what doctors use to reverse overdoses.

Yes and it works great for that application!

Source: 2 year old me was a problem and got into daddy's medicine. On the top shelf of the cabinet. That reasonably a 2 year old should not be able to get into. Also child proof lids who? Apparently not child proof enough. I was fine. My mum learned I could not be left unsupervised ever.

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u/B1ackFridai Oct 02 '22

In some parts, it’s even still on ambulances for emergency use. Some greedy person marketed it as a cure all, and here we are 🤦 The list is getting bigger. Don’t douche, don’t insert jade egg, don’t….

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u/slipperytornado Oct 02 '22

Activated charcoal is the standard in EMS for poisoning. It’s usefulness in this capacity and many others should not be condemned.

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u/Valkyriesride1 Oct 02 '22

I was just coming here to say this. If a patient doesn't react to Narcan or Romazicon, we drop a nasogastric tube and inject activated charcoal into it. We put in a nasogastric tube and inject activated charcoal, a lot of party drugs do not respond to Narcan or Romazicon. Activated charcoal is usually the first line drug used in pediatric patients.

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u/whatsasimba Oct 02 '22

First I'm learning of it!

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u/recyclopath_ Oct 02 '22

It's actually a great idea to have some activated charcoal pills available especially if you have pets at home in case they get into anything that may be dangerous.

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u/INFJ_witchergirl Oct 02 '22

So wait. You are saying people put that in our drinks? Is there a law against that?

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u/MyFaceSaysItsSugar Resting Witch Face Oct 02 '22

Yep. I have a friend who offers me some whenever I get an upset stomach and I have to explain that I need the antidepressants chilling in my stomach. Ginger is a much better option.

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u/recyclopath_ Oct 02 '22

You should be really careful about thanking activated charcoal in general.

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u/DooBeeDoer207 Oct 02 '22

I never thank it, but I do occasionally tell it to fuck off. 😉

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u/Both-Pack8730 Oct 02 '22

😂❤️

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u/AtalanAdalynn Oct 02 '22

Ingested medications. Injected are still good.

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u/OtHanski Little-Bit-of-Everything Witch ☉ Oct 02 '22

Obviously, the charcoal hopefully won't end up in your bloodstream :')

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u/octokit Geek Witch ☉⚧ Oct 02 '22

Same with grapefruit! It can interact with the way that many medications are metabolized.

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u/thepetoctopus Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Tip: if you want to dye baked goods black without using food coloring, you can use black cocoa powder.

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u/night-readers Oct 02 '22

Wait, that's a thing??

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u/thepetoctopus Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Yeah! I learned about it prior to last Halloween. It’s a game changer. I made some black chocolate chip cookies and they were great.

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u/night-readers Oct 02 '22

That sounds delicious!! I'm totally going to have to keep this idea in my back pocket

I haven't been doing much Halloween anything so maybe I should 🤔

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u/thepetoctopus Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Yeah, Halloween has been a shit show since Covid started. I’m determined to do something this year though!

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u/night-readers Oct 02 '22

My husband and I have a lot going on right now so we might not do much but black chocolate cookies have my brain going nuts 😂

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u/chaosgirl93 Mystic ♀ Oct 03 '22

I haven't really been celebrating Halloween since Covid.

I've got a pretty radical costume idea for this year though!

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u/moeru_gumi Witch ⚧ Oct 02 '22

It's called Dutch (or "Dutched") Cocoa. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_process_cocoa

The 'black' versions are just ultra-processed. :)

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u/mossenmeisje Oct 02 '22

This is absolutely fascinating to me because I am Dutch and have never seen this, despite spending quite some time in the coffee and baking isles of shops. Neat!

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u/night-readers Oct 02 '22

Oh! Thank you!

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u/A_shy_neon_jaguar Oct 03 '22

It's the same stuff Oreos are made from, and it's delicious in cake!

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u/Shauiluak Science Witch ♂️⚧ Oct 02 '22

Black Tahini also works!

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u/thepetoctopus Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Oooh, that’s a good idea! For more savory stuff.

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u/Super-Diver-1585 Oct 03 '22

Good to know, be careful when eating black baked goods, because they might contain chocolate. For those of us who can't eat it, this could be a surprise.

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u/FaceToTheSky Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Or squid ink

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u/StashaPeriod Oct 02 '22

Love squid ink for cooking, better in savory dishes as it’s salty, but could be good in a dessert that’s a ‘salted’ something.

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u/Magfaeridon Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22 Helpful

But black cocoa powder doesn't commodify the life of a sentient creature just so we can color a pastry...

Edit: I am aware that the vast majority of cocoa is problematic for a number of reasons. However, it is possible to find ethical cocoa, while it is not possible to find ethical squid ink. I do respect everyone's decisions not to kill or enslave anything for the sake of coloring a food just to make it seem spooky. Simply not coloring that food, or avoiding the food item entirely (if it's a treat or novelty, anyways) is probably the most ethical decision.

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u/FiddlerOnACliff Geek Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

...Not really. A third of the world's cocoa still comes from the Ivory Coast, which still hasn't really at all been purged of the child slavery and labor issues that have plagued it for decades. The Cocoa Protocol, or the Harkin-Engel Protocol, which was a industrial self regulatory agreement for the chocolate industry that was signed in 2001, and only aimed to purge the worst forms of child labor, has had it deadline for the reduction of 70% of the worst forms of child labor pushed back from 2008, to 2015, to 2020, and now to 2025. Don't trust your cocoa unless a company is very explicit and upfront about acknowledging the issue.

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u/kioku119 Oct 03 '22

Tony's Chocolonly I believe is a company that's trying to do it ethically / show other chocolate companies it's possible since the founder apparently started it after failing to convince any chocolate companies to actually care.

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u/macandcheese1771 Witch ☉ Oct 02 '22

Cocoa is harvested through slave labour so

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u/thepetoctopus Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

That tastes bad though lol.

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u/FaceToTheSky Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Oh does it? I tried squid ink pasta a couple of times and didn’t notice a taste. But maybe the sauce covered it up.

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u/thepetoctopus Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Huh. I’ve only tried it once but I did not like it at all.

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u/kminola Oct 02 '22

Also squid ink. I’ve used it in cocktails and it’s wild how little you need to color something.

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u/KabedonUdon Oct 02 '22

Black sesame too. Toasty and delicious. Black sesame ice cream is delicious

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u/Klopsmond Forest Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

not just oral birth control pills, but every kind of medication, yes very important to keep in mind

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u/DemonDucklings Oct 02 '22

Every kind of oral medication, or any form of medication? Does it only deactivate medication in our digestive system?

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u/cflatjazz Oct 02 '22

Digestive only. From what I remember charcoal doesn't pull anything out of your tissue and blood, but it does block absorption of pretty much anything in the digestive tract

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u/Apidium Oct 02 '22

If the medication is the sort that may jaunt over to the digestive system before reabsorbing it could cause problems there. It's honestly better to just not eat AC in the first place.

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u/Klopsmond Forest Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Medicinal charcoal is a porous, fine-grained carbon with a large, internal surface area. It binds dissolved particles, such as toxins or bacteria. The effect is due to the fact that it is a framework with many pores, which provides a lot of surface area that can "trap" small dissolved particles. It is used for the oral treatment of diarrheal diseases and poisoning. But it not only traps those things, it also traps the other oral medication you swallowed.

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u/mirilala Oct 02 '22

It can technically also disrupt the reabsorption of medication that's excreted through the gallbladder and gets reabsorbed later. I'm not sure how relevant this is to most medication.

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u/libbyrocks Oct 02 '22

Also St John’s Wort as a supplement can negate birth control. I’m not sure if anyone takes it anymore, but back when I worked for a natural food store, I made it my mission to tell everyone because it was recommended for depression and sold like hotcakes.

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u/LesboLexi Oct 02 '22

It also shouldn't be taken with other antidepressants because it could cause serotonin syndrome.

Also certain birth control meds can interact with certain antidepressants, increasing the bioavailability of the antidepressant, which could also cause serotonin syndrome. (I think this mostly applies to certain MAOI)

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u/omw_to_valhalla Oct 02 '22

(I think this mostly applies to certain MAOI)

Yes, don't take any MAOI with an SSRI. They can cause seratonin syndrome. This includes Ayahuasca.

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u/riggycat Oct 02 '22

Bless you.

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u/kelskelsea Oct 02 '22

It also reduces the uptake of lamotrigine, a drug for epilepsy and bipolar

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u/m5m2m1 Oct 02 '22

I am so scared of St John's wort. I took it for a little while and totally flipped my s***.

"A person with a diagnosis of depression should not use St. John’s wort as an alternative to therapies recommended by a doctor. If the herb is not effective, the depression may worsen.

In some cases, St. John’s wort can trigger psychosis. This is another reason people with major depression or bipolar disorder should be careful with the herb despite its potential benefits in this area. It may cause a person to develop a manic episode." https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/174928#risks

The lesson for me being that just because something is natural or trending, doesn't mean that it's the best thing for my body.

Please be safe witches! 💚

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u/Abbot_of_Cucany Oct 03 '22

Many people know that you should not drink grapefruit juice while taking some drugs. The same thing is true of St. John's Wort, except more so. If you're taking St. John's Wort, ask your pharmacist or physician about every other medication you're also using, including over-the-counter meds like antihistamines and cough syrups.

Just for comparison, the number of drugs that majorly ("contraindicated" or "serious") interact with grapefruit: 105.

The number of drugs that majorly interact with St. John's Wort: 260

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u/Baby_Wltch Witch ♀♂️☉⚧ Oct 02 '22

Please remember to not use activated charcoal in toothpaste! It makes them look whiter because it's sandpaper on teeth and is taking off enamel

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u/grizzly_cute Oct 02 '22

Ugh, really?! That really sucks, because I can only handle about three types of toothpaste due to a mint sensitivity. Whelp, scratch that, make it two 🙃

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u/MANDALORIAN_WHISKEY Oct 02 '22

Can you tolerate cinnamon? My kids don't like mint, so I buy them cinnamon toothpaste. They love it! A little more difficult to find but I can usually get it at Walmart.

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u/grizzly_cute Oct 02 '22

My go-to toothpaste is cinnamon, actually! Unfortunately, they discontinued it at my supermarket. But I bought in bulk when I noticed, so I should have enough for the next year 😅

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u/ReadWriteSign Literary Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

If you can afford their prices, Lush (the soap store?) makes toothpaste tabs that are essentially pressed-together baking soda and other stuff, no mint. No flouride either, so if you need that I can't help here, but they come in several flavors including lime. Maybe worth checking out.

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u/eileen404 Oct 02 '22

Exactly. My daughter will go through cinnamon and had the worst time finding it without giving Bezos more money.

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u/-brielle- Oct 03 '22

Crest made a green tea flavored toothpaste about a decade or two ago and I’m sad it’s not still around.

The average drugstore should have a few non-mint varieties with fluoride, especially in the kid’s section. I’d double check with your dentist on particular brands, but I saw Colgate has a watermelon one and some others. Avoid baking soda because it also scrubs away enamel.

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u/EmRaff7 Heathen Witch ☉ Oct 02 '22

I have a similar issue and I recommend children’s toothpaste! I have a citrus flavored one and a watermelon flavored one

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u/grizzly_cute Oct 03 '22

Thanks for the tip! That's way easier to find than my usual toothpastes 😊

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u/lilacaena Oct 02 '22

Have you tried kids crest? Not minty, very enjoyable, and you can find it at most drug stores.

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u/cactuslegs Oct 02 '22

Ahh. I thought it was like laundry bluing, where it deposited a slight blue tint to cancel out the yellow.

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u/Baby_Wltch Witch ♀♂️☉⚧ Oct 02 '22

Nope, I used to think that too until I heard multiple dentists absolutely lose their shite talking about it

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u/cactuslegs Oct 02 '22

TIL! I’m sticking to my OG, sensodyne.

And remember kids, only floss the teeth you want to keep!!

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u/Hiseworns Oct 02 '22

Do people eat activated charcoal? On purpose?

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u/Botryllus Science Witch Oct 02 '22

My mom gave it to me when I had a really bad hangover once (like vomiting all day). I was pretty desperate to take anything to get better. It didn't make things worse. I don't know if it helped or if things had just run their course.

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u/Hiseworns Oct 02 '22

I mean it's used in similar ways for other overdoses so maybe, but it's still not food

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u/Botryllus Science Witch Oct 02 '22

Yeah, it's why I agreed to drink it in the first place. It's not something I've had again though.

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u/666Skittles Oct 02 '22

IANAD: but I think if you’re hungover it won’t be much use, because the booze has left your stomach already. Unless your mum was thinking it might reduce some of the acids in your stomach. In vet clinics we use liquid charcoal to give to animals that have eaten something toxic, because the charcoal binds to it and then it can pass out the digestive tract. So we give them an emetic to make them barf, or an anaesthetic and pump their stomach, and then all the toxins possible are out. Then we reverse the emetic and feed them liquid charcoal. A lot of it. It’s a joyous occasion, at Easter it’s especially fun.

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u/cflatjazz Oct 02 '22

Easter it’s especially fun.

The lilies?

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u/jembaloo1 Oct 02 '22

Maybe chocolate?

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u/666Skittles Oct 04 '22

The chocolate tidal wave! All weekend. You get a prize if you can sniff the barf and guess what kind of chocolate it was, no prize if they also ate the wrapper so you can tell. Kids crying cos their doggy found and ate their stash. Drama!

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u/666Skittles Oct 04 '22

Chocolate! Haven’t seen too many lily toxicities but it’s usually cats cos flower vases are higher up than dogs can reach. Also cats will eat them and you won’t notice one piece missing but a dog will destroy it.

Public holidays tend to be the busiest for barfing dogs cos people eat a lot, leave it out on a table unattended, bins overflow, new people visiting the house who don’t have pets and don’t know that x y z is bad for pets, people just tip their scraps into the garden, people throw oil from a bbq into the garden, people are drunk and not paying attention…

Oops sorry unintended rant…

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u/cordial_carbonara Oct 02 '22

It's only going to work for alcohol if there's still alcohol being absorbed in the digestive tract. It won't do anything for the levels in your blood (which is what's killing anyone with a hangover). Better to just take some aspirin and chug a bunch of water before you go to bed after drinking (assuming aspirin is safe for you as an individual).

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u/unaware_unafraid Oct 02 '22

Yeah it's like some health thing, I guess. It gets mixed into foods or drink, I've also seen it in toothpaste as an abrasive

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u/Hiseworns Oct 02 '22

Seems like an anti-health thing, weird

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u/moeru_gumi Witch ⚧ Oct 02 '22

People who get obsessed about "toxins" and "detoxifying" are a few very small baby steps away from obsessive paranoia. They think everything is 'out to get them', they believe their organs aren't 'removing toxins' correctly, and they will spend gallons of money on bullshit garbage from clay that you put on your feet "to draw out toxins" to drinks that "flush out toxins" to tinfoil hats "to block toxic rays". It can quickly go from "I need to eat better" to full blown insanity.

I've worked with a few of these people. They are exhausting.

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u/Yvaelle Oct 02 '22

Meanwhile our livers and kidneys are some of the best filtration systems on the planet, you install them once at birth and they usually work for your entire lifetime. Compare to any car filter or HVAC or etc that gets changed every few months to years.

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u/unaware_unafraid Oct 02 '22

They're not thinking about medications. They're trying to absorb all the "daily toxins" your body has just by existing. But yeah I agree. Especially because it doesn't even taste good! It also stains the shit out of your clothes

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u/Hiseworns Oct 02 '22

Ok, the "toxins" people strike again, got it

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u/psyche_13 Oct 02 '22

I've had activated charcoal frozen yogurt. Then random stuff comes out for spooky season

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u/Alice_In_Kingston Oct 02 '22

Yes, where you not around when the trend started? Activated charcoal was in EVERYTHING from bagels to ice cream to soups

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u/ghostcactus22 Oct 02 '22

I feel like I’ve been living under a rock the last few years. This is all news to me that people consume activated charcoal.

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u/Hiseworns Oct 02 '22

Likewise, it's . . . it's not food, wtf

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Oct 02 '22

It is, in fact, anti-food, and prevents you from absorbing the nutrients and vitamins and minerals in your food (but not the calories, before anyone makes that mistake).

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u/recyclopath_ Oct 02 '22

Trends like this have regional levels of intensity

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u/cannotfoolowls Oct 02 '22

I accidentally ate an ice cream cone that apparently was dyed black with charcoal. Don't know why because it didn't taste different. It didn't really look particularly striking either.

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u/Lilianah_ Witch ⚧ Oct 02 '22

Ofcourse. Its the first home treatment you use in diareha, food poisoning, bloating and overdoses. Doesnt get absorbed outside of the food tract and is excreated harmlessly.

Maybe its not an american thing but here its common. Its also one of the oldest medicaments used so its not really a new thing.

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u/Hiseworns Oct 02 '22

Ok but it's not like a FOOD, some people (in the US) are apparently putting it in regular food and then wondering why their medicine isn't working. It got absorbed by the charcoal and then they pooped out out. It's fine when used like medicine for specific ailments, not so much just willy nilly

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u/0-_-_Red_-_-0 Oct 02 '22

We use capsules of activated charcoal for stomach pain from gas or indigestion. Works so well!

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u/recyclopath_ Oct 02 '22

It's becoming a health fad to put it in things

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u/Cat-Lover20 Science Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

And pretty much every other medication!! Please be careful!!

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u/runmymouth Oct 02 '22

What they shoved down the throat of a dog 15 years ago when he ate a sago palm. Not surprising it would inert other chemicals from pills. Probably should be avoiding activated charcole if you take any pills.

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u/Gentleman_Muk Oct 02 '22

Could it negate hrt?

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u/TribbleScribbles Oct 02 '22

Most likely, yes, you shouldn't take it with ANY medication unless specifically instructed by your doctor (which shouldn't really be happening unless you're like, in the ER for overdose or something)

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u/Gentleman_Muk Oct 02 '22

I guess i gotta end me weekend plans then/s

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u/TribbleScribbles Oct 02 '22

I mean, unless your plans involve not absorbing your meds and having the world's worst poos lol

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u/TrollintheMitten Oct 02 '22

This is where I whine about not being able to have tea, eggs, or dairy within a few hours of taking my iron pills, and also being mad I have to have them with food or barf.

Yup. weekend ruined by sleeping or barfing if I mess up. Stupid fibroids.

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u/TribbleScribbles Oct 02 '22

Oh god I can still fucking taste the iron burps, urghh. I've been on them several times in my life, so I feel ya, it is the worst.

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u/Mmarischka Oct 02 '22

Make sure you are getting the green iron tablets or pills, ferrous gluconate. They are so much easier to digest! They were a game changer for me, I had terrible anemia starting in grade school, but iron made me so sick I rarely took it.

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u/TrollintheMitten Oct 02 '22

Thanks for that! Ferrous sulfate is what I've been taking, they are green, but if the other one is easier, I'll happily switch.

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u/Mmarischka Oct 02 '22

Also take Vitamin C with iron, it will increase the absorption. Another thing that kept me going was prenatal vitamins. They are like magic bullets, used to take them when I got my period.

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u/TrollintheMitten Oct 02 '22

I have the vitamin C but it makes the barfing way more likely, so I haven't been taking it.

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u/BlueberrySpaghetti Oct 02 '22

Not the injectable meds. The oral ones yes

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u/runmymouth Oct 02 '22

I would consult a physician but maybe? It also depends on quantity. When they shoved it down my dogs throat it was a lot because its highly toxic they were hoping to get it out.

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u/Gentleman_Muk Oct 02 '22

Not that im planning on eating coal

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u/EspionageCoven Oct 02 '22

WHAT damn thank you for this

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u/Conscious-Charity915 Oct 02 '22

I' ve heard that about grapefruit juice.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Oct 02 '22

Grapefruit juice interacts with HBC, but the other way around. It affects how your liver processes things (anything that processes in the liver, so many depression meds and others) and you end up with way more of it in your bloodstream, increasing the risk of clots.

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u/DeaconOrlov Oct 02 '22

This sub is always full of great advice

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u/bois_santal Oct 02 '22

Also some antibiotics!!

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u/DitaVonPita Oct 02 '22

Not just birth control. It will reduce efficacy of any oral medication. You need 2 hr difference between consuming activated charcoal and any other med.

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u/DasEmlein Oct 02 '22

WHY DID NO ONE EVER TELL ME THIS, I PUT CHARCOAL IN LITERALLY EVERYTHING DURING HALLOWEEN

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u/VeryConsciousWater Geek Witch ♀⚧ Oct 02 '22

It’s not just birth control. It counteracts a wide range of medications, that’s why it’s used in some cases of poisoning or overdose.

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u/InfinitelyThirsting Oct 02 '22

Yeah, definitely stop. It's actually generally bad for you, not just with medications but also it prevents you from absorbing nutrients from your food. It's like putting penicillin in stuff--it has a limited medical use and is bad for you to consume outside of those medical emergencies with medical supervision. Use black cocoa powder or food coloring.

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u/thedragonfly1 Oct 02 '22

Maybe try something like squid ink instead. There are other natural dyes that don’t cause harm like charcoal does.

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u/recyclopath_ Oct 02 '22

It also removes some of the vital vitamins and minerals in what you eat

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u/Spare_Job_9226 Oct 02 '22

Oh god thanks so much for this info I had no idea.

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u/Sonofabeechikeelu Oct 02 '22

Doctors use this to reverse poisonings too… 💩

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u/i-heart-trees Oct 02 '22

Also for my girls taking estrogen same deal

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u/Lilianah_ Witch ⚧ Oct 02 '22

To be precise, the inactivation of oral meds occurs only within 2 hours of administration. After that the med is already in the blood stream where activated coal doesnt get absorbed.

So if you dont take both too close together youre probably fine, although each drug interaction should be consulted with a doctor.

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u/kampamaneetti Oct 02 '22

Doesn't seem worth the risk. One slip up is all it takes.

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u/jenkraisins Oct 02 '22

TIL a lot about activated charcoal. Fascinating stuff.

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u/slink6 Oct 02 '22

Is the pictures implication that people use activated charcoal as a food coloring for Halloween decor?

I've not heard of that before.

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u/Repulsive_Narwhal_10 Witch ♂️ Oct 02 '22

I'm sorry, I'm lost with this post. Is activated charcoal commonplace in a food or drink somewhere I'm not aware of?

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u/soliloquyline Oct 03 '22

Unfortunately yes. A lot of people use it to "detox" and drink it daily.

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u/JennyBloom Oct 02 '22

That includes most medications and HRT! Please be careful witches!

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u/geekchick2411 Oct 02 '22

Also antibiotics have negative effects on hormonal birth control, be careful.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

Also antibiotics have negative effects on hormonal birth control, be careful.

I had to learn this one the hard way in my early 20s. One very avoidable abortion later, I tell this to every girl or woman I can.

I'm in my 40s now, but literally no one - including my doctor - told me it would make my birth control fail.

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u/Yavannamadehobbits Oct 02 '22

Same goes for many other medications!

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u/Jynxbunni Science Witch ♀♂️☉⚧ Oct 02 '22

Toxicology RN here. While in theory this is true, a standard dosing for activated charcoal in order to counteract meds is 1g/kg. Most of the pills you will find are on average 520mg/tab, or 131.12 tablets for a 150#/68.18kg person. Also, most foods will have nowhere near an effective amount in the entire batter.

TL;DR: enjoy your black foods without worry, just don’t make it a main staple of your diet.

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u/Derpazor1 Oct 02 '22

Never thought of it but I guess that makes sense

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u/illNefariousness883 Oct 02 '22

This is SO important. Thank you!!!!

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u/19bluestars Oct 02 '22

Man, I can’t believe I heard it here first folks

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u/GayDarGalaWhore Oct 02 '22

Thank you for the reminder!

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u/Chef_Chantier Oct 02 '22

If you want black pastries, suck it up and do it like your ancestors. With blood.

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u/ChampismyPuppy Oct 02 '22

Is Nexplanon still safe from activated charcoal effects?

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u/Chcknndlsndwch Oct 02 '22

Activated charcoal works on medications when they are in the stomach together. Nexplanon is not taken via GI tract so charcoal has no effect. Also don’t eat charcoal.

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u/Natt42 Sea Witch ♀ Oct 02 '22

Thanks a lot for this, I had no idea.

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u/KillionJones Oct 02 '22

Huh, I knew about grapefruit but not activated charcoal. Ya learn something new every day!

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u/JuiceAndJews Oct 02 '22

Also, don’t ingest if you have a coconut allergy.

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u/hexagonal_Bumblebee Oct 02 '22

And also many medications, be careful with it

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u/VBB67 Oct 02 '22

St. John’s Wort (for the depressed witches) will also impede your hormonal birth control. As my gyno told me, “you think you’re depressed now …”

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u/roadrunnner0 Oct 02 '22

Um why did it become trendy to take this for no reason actually

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u/Idrisdancer Oct 02 '22

And other medications as well.

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u/AntheaBrainhooke Oct 02 '22

And a whole lot of other medications either less effective or not effective at all. Sure, it's fun to eat and drink black stuff but there are safer ways to get the same effect.

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u/North_Inflation1710 Oct 02 '22

tell me I'm not the only one who read "tits the season"

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u/Simply_Gabriele Oct 02 '22

To clarify: this is true with most medication if consumed while the meds are still in the digestive tract, it's deactivating things it comes in contact with. TECHNICALLY, if you take your meds in the morning and have some weird charcoal latte in the afternoon, you should not have any issues. But there's still no reason to consume activated charcoal. If you want black drinks for spooky season you can rely of food dye or black cocoa to achieve the aesthetic without medical concerns.

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u/Reasonable-Walk7991 ✨Mouse🪡🐁✨ Oct 02 '22

😳 when you ingest it, or any use? It’s in my shampoo

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u/Jynxbunni Science Witch ♀♂️☉⚧ Oct 03 '22

Ingestion