r/lotrmemes Oct 01 '22

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u/ChristineWhy Oct 02 '22

“Where Sauron?”

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u/sauron-bot Oct 02 '22

Death to light, to law, to love!

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u/ChristineWhy Oct 02 '22

Take your nampat somewhere else you goon.

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u/Competitive_Bag_3164 Oct 01 '22

This "Silmarillion" book is bullshit. I'm almost 1/5th of the way through it and they haven't even mentioned the Silmarils.

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u/Happy_the_Camper Oct 01 '22

At least the Silmarils show up eventually. I was waiting for the focus on the lion part and was very upset.

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u/PaniMan1994 Oct 02 '22

I always look forward to the part where Feanor sets off on his journey by saying ".. Its Silmaril time..."...

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u/FieelChannel Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

Feanor is surely one of the elves in the Silmarilion. His background lore is his past and his combat scenes contain fighting. The son characters were along with Feanor and the villain Morgoth was a bad guy. The Silmarils were jewels. Feanor really is one of the elves of all time

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u/FeanaroBot Oct 02 '22

Yea, in the end they shall follow me. Farewell!

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u/FeanaroBot Oct 02 '22

Bring with you your swords!

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u/Artakano Oct 01 '22

There's no mention of Saul Goodman in a show called Better Call Saul, until later seasons. Unbravo Vince!

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u/Kultir Oct 02 '22

He says it in the first season.

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u/Sipsu02 Oct 01 '22

Didn't read the book?

Not only are they mentioned in the forewords before the book even starts but they are clearly spoken in the Quenta Silmarillion... 20 odd pages into the book.

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u/OrietaFausto Oct 02 '22

at least you know how many silmarils are there, a silmarillion of them.

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u/Saruman_Bot Istari Oct 02 '22

Tens of thousands.

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u/sauron-bot Oct 02 '22

So you have come back? Why have you neglected to report for so long?

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u/FarkinRoboDer Oct 02 '22

When do they bring the rilly smilly onion

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u/Hassanplayz Oct 02 '22

I'm sorry, but I disagree , the book contains a lot of history and backstory , which is necessary for the silmaril story to make sense.

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u/Competitive_Bag_3164 Oct 04 '22

I was being facetious.

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u/TRocho10 Oct 01 '22

Finally someone says it! It's like when we watched the Lord of the Rings trilogy, but like...we never saw the lord doing any lording over the rings. Is he just a Lord, or is he the king? If not, who does he answer to? What is his tax plan?

So many unanswered questions

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

Didn't it start with Sauron lording over the rings?

"It began with the forging of the great rings. Three were given to the elves....Seven to the Dwarf lords.... And 9 rings were gifted to the race of men...And for within these rings was the strength and will to govern each race.....in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secrete a master ring to control all others.."

So yeah, definitely lording over the rings.

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u/skolioban Oct 02 '22

They literally emphasized very clearly "ONE RING TO RULE THEM ALL" .

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u/high_king_noctis Oct 02 '22

"one ring to find them, One ring to bring them all, and in the darkness bind them"

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u/Adm_Kunkka Oct 02 '22

So which ring does the auditing?

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u/Affectionate_Face Oct 03 '22

yeah who has to wear the accounting ring for tax season

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u/Roril451 Oct 01 '22

Is he just a Lord, or is he the king?

He called himself a king of kings and the king of men

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u/Bottlez1266 Oct 01 '22

No tax plan, just gotta dig some tunnels.

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u/TRocho10 Oct 01 '22

Well at least we know he is a job creator

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u/submit_to_pewdiepie Oct 02 '22

We have created new jobs for the uruks, fine people tremendous people

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u/Saruman_Bot Istari Oct 02 '22

My fighting Uruk-Hai. Whom do you serve?

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u/Gorlack2231 Oct 02 '22

Hey, do you think Adar had some dig the hole that opened up to the magma chamber? I noticed it opened straight down into the pit, and sat there wondering if the uruks forgot Rule 1 of Minecraft.

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u/MorgothReturns Oct 02 '22

Was wondering the same thing.

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u/Saruman_Bot Istari Oct 02 '22

They were elves once, taken by the dark powers, tortured and mutilated. A ruined and terrible form of life. Now… perfected.

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u/Katejina_FGO Oct 02 '22

Peter Jackson is a fkin genius. He knew that people would be like, 'where are the rings', so he was like I'll show them all the rings in the first minute so they can't complain. Rings of Power has no easy out on this front for the plebs because they be like, 'there are no rings yet' and the pleb watchers and complainers will be like, 'ok but where are the rings'.

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u/ranting_madman Oct 01 '22

Sauron would vote for Bernie.

Sauron feels the Bern.

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u/sauron-bot Oct 01 '22

So you have come back? Why have you neglected to report for so long?

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u/adminswannabanme Oct 02 '22

It’s obvious that Sauron is the lord of the rings because he created the rings and is the lord of them. That’s how this whole thing started..

Sheesh

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u/TRocho10 Oct 02 '22

I know. Was just a silly joke my dude lol

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u/raggisnoora Oct 02 '22

Not that I like where this series is going but I sense the theme being: S1: Creation of the rings S2: Elven rings S3: Dwarf rings S4: Wrath rings S5: War

The reason being (as stupid I find the execution) we follow what amounts to 4 plots so far: Gandalf, Galadriel, Elrond and Sauron sibplot(s). The three ring bearers and what will probably be the underlying theme of each season "what's happening in the shadows"(but suprise the shadows also be working with the elves and suprise the dwarfs and suprise the men too).

So we are introduced to the wearers and the creators of the most powerful rings (cos fuck you if it doesn't make sense who wears what ring when as it looks right now). With a marvel sub series level, showed down your throat, unnecessary drama (the boats, the sword, the damn, the slave tunnels, evil gandalf etc). Season finally we are probably getting the mithril furnace, elves and halbrand in one place.

Then s2 characters get their rings and it will be drama town with the secret elven rings. We'll probably see the fall of Numenor and for some reason even though Halbrand is helping the Elves he will not be reviled as Sauron.Dwarfes will play have like 33% of the story doing dwarfy things with the mighty silmarillian mithrill, but it will save the Elves who cannot live without it. Meanwhile armies of Mordor will be created and corruption of Southern men will start.

S3 will be Halbrand giving dwarfs rings and they will Dwarf some more because elves are dying and they must use the rings, they'll have a drama about using the rings because rings are bad. Elves will literally lead the main story but failing cos they will make stupid decisions, causing the Dwarf drama, but it will be the scenes where the plot actually progresses. Dwarfs will probably fight a Balrog or a Balrog/Dragon army. Men will join as subplots, accepting rings and what not.

S4 we see the fall of men in the various kingdoms. We will get some nonconclusion conclusion to what ever the dwarfs will be dwarfing and either they will have Sauron put on the ring this season or next season, thus the elves figuring out the whole plot with the damn and everything, even the subplots you wouldn't be able to fathom right now, probably found a magic shield that healed trees or what ever.

S5 will be war, gathering armies and stuff. Elves making amends with dwarfs, trying to find the curage of men through Elindil and Isildur (but dont worry Isuldurs sister will make it all happen). Second to Las episode we have the war and isildur not throwing the ring. Then probably end with mellow dramatic end of him dieing or something.

Then again I have no clue as to what I'm talking about, so I'll probably watch it until I won't care about anything LOTR related. Just feels like I'm being told the story by a 10 year old who was told the story in short the day before.

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u/Elrond_Bot Oct 02 '22

CAST IT INTO THE FIRE!!!

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u/gandalf-bot Oct 02 '22

We now have but one choice, we must face the long dark of Moria. Be on your guard, there are older and fouler things than orcs in the deep places of the world. The wealth of Moria is not in gold, or jewels, but Mithril. Bilbo had a shirt of Mithril rings that Thorin gave him.

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u/bilbo_bot Oct 02 '22

Where's it gone?

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u/HipsterFett SHIREBAGGINSSHRRIIEEEEEK Oct 02 '22

Something something to rule them all, it was pretty vague and barely mentioned. Probably because it was some sort of elvish, and few can read it.

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u/TheMerce123 Oct 01 '22

It would be like if House of the Dragon just started with the Dance of the Dragons

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u/NoWingedHussarsToday Oct 01 '22

It starts with a scene of a dragon flying and being ridden by a Targaryen, so at least that's that.......

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u/TheMerce123 Oct 01 '22

But Dragons isn’t the plot, the civil war is the plot.

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u/NoWingedHussarsToday Oct 02 '22

And we see right away various factions jockeying for positions, advantage and trying to screw each other over.

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u/TheMerce123 Oct 02 '22

100% I agree with you. And I’d argue similarly we are seeing the set up to the creation of the rings ( Celebrimbor is building a forge for it) as well as setting up the military rise of Numenor and creation of Mordor.

There’s just a lot more that goes into the creation of the rings then just the actual making of them. Just like there’s more that goes into the dance of dragons that just Viserys dying

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u/GnosticCebalrai Oct 02 '22

Yeah that would have been terrible, there would have been no episode 4 which was generously 8 minutes of material largely already tread in previous episodes stretched over an hour about a hymen.

The pacing and what they choose to show instead of tell in that show is abysmal.

I still feel like the writers room for rings of power just watched Dark Crystal: Age of Resistance and slapped a LotR coat of paint on it. It's suspiciously close to a character for character, plot point for plot point re-skin. But unlike House of the Dragon I don't find myself consistently annoyed with what is making it on screen.

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u/LFChristopher Oct 02 '22

Thank you for putting into words what I think about HotD. Why do we have to watch those prolongued and overly graphic birth scenes? It’s like they’re only doing it as a way to show that they’re allowed to. Sorry, but graphic for the sake of graphic doesn’t make a show better.

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u/Artakano Oct 01 '22

There has been three major references to the 'idea' behind the creation of the Rings of Power that I am aware of. There could be even more that I'm not aware of.

First one is Halbrand's advice to Galadriel. It's straight up essentially the entire ideology behind creation of the Rings.

Then there's the mithril and fading of the Elves plot, a set up for the creation of the Rings of Power. The Rings were made to save the Elves from the fading. Mithril won't help them on its own. So this Annatar guy tells them how to create Rings.

And last one is Sauron's meddling with the Unseen World, desiring to use its power to create something. Guess what was one of the chief powers of the Rings? Their connection with the Unseen World.

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u/NoWingedHussarsToday Oct 01 '22

Meanwhile in LOTR first movie literally opens with explanation about the rings, who got them and that there was another ring made.

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u/papyjako89 Oct 02 '22

Okay ? Not sure what's your point.

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u/NoWingedHussarsToday Oct 02 '22

The point is that in LOTR you learn within 5 minutes about the rings, their existence and Sauron's trickery and what One Ring is. Here were are 3/4s in first season and the rings weren't even mentioned yet.

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u/Artakano Oct 01 '22

And it starts with a completely wrong and non-canon explanation on the rings. And I don't think the show will follow the canon story of the creation of rings either

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u/SuperCharlesXYZ Oct 02 '22

What’s wrong about the intro about the rings?

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u/Artakano Oct 02 '22

Movie: The rings were given to those three Elves, 9 men, and 7 dwarves. But they were deceived, Sauron created a master ring to rule them all.

Silmarillion and Unfinished Tales and LotR and Appendices: Celebrimbor and the rest of the Mirdain instructed by Sauron forged all of the rings. Sauron forged a master ring to rule them all. Celebrimbor found out about his betrayal and he took off his rings. Celebrimbor gave the three to Galadriel and Gil-Galad. And Gil-Galad gave one of them to Cirdan, and later one another to Elrond. They never wore those rings as long as second age lasted. Sauron defeated Eregion, stole the 9 rings from Celebrimbor's workshop, and learned of the secret locations of the Seven Rings from Celebrimbor under torture. After the war he began distribution of the Nine and the Seven.

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u/SuperCharlesXYZ Oct 02 '22

Yeah so that’s not really wrong though… just simplified. Similarly to how The fellowship book leaves that out too

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u/Reality_Lord2 Oct 02 '22

Alright, let me get this straight: in the books, the elves had three rings? And there were seven rings, which were given to the dwarves? And nine rings that were given to men? And there was this one other ring which Sauron forged? In secret? To rule them all? A master ring? Which the others didn't know about until he put the ring on?

Have I got it right?

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u/BushidoSamura1 Oct 02 '22

Insert he’s already dead Ralph wiggum meme

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u/Artakano Oct 02 '22

The entire timeline and structure of the narrative is changed:

Gil-Galad never ever wore his ring

Those rings were not given to others before Sauron forged The One. Celebrimbor and the Mirdain possessed all rings (except the master ring).

Galadriel and Cirdan never wore their rings in the Second Age.

Thus Celebrimbors role is deatroyed in the movies.

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u/FilthyCasualTrader Oct 01 '22

Reminds me of “winter is coming”. And that shit took a decade.

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u/MrJMK Oct 02 '22

Technically, winter is still yet to come, since GRRM refuses to finish The Winds of Winter.

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u/alexgndl Oct 02 '22

I was talking about this with a few people the other day, and it's interesting because while most people seem to know about Winds of Winter and all that...they have no idea that there's another book after Winds. When you look at it with Dream of Spring in the picture as well, yeah-A Song of Ice and Fire is never getting finished.

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u/MrJMK Oct 02 '22

Life is hard for book-onlys such as myself...

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

At least the journey to get there was compelling though.

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u/rampantfirefly Oct 02 '22

Until it very much wasn’t.

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u/ketchup_123 Oct 02 '22

They are on the meat... THE RAW MEAT

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u/DracoNinja11 Oct 01 '22

Celebrimbor is literally the guy who makes them. The forge he's making with the Dwarves' help is the one that forges the rings. Its buildup.

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u/GnosticCebalrai Oct 02 '22

This is actually one example of a "what makes the main plot" for this show. Celebrimbor is there but not much of a focus, and I feel that the casting suggests he isn't going to be.

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u/Bottlez1266 Oct 01 '22

When rings

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u/sodosopapilla Oct 02 '22

The maiar always rings twice

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u/GnosticCebalrai Oct 01 '22

The best part about rings of power so far is when Galadriel yells "It's Morfydd Time!!" And then Morfs all over those guys. But she wasn't wearing a ring, I don't think.

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u/Bottlez1266 Oct 01 '22

I like the bit where arda unfriended the humans in the southland because they didn't dance the magic dance with his orc kids.

And he was like "your friends don't dance, and if they don't dance, we'll they're no friends of mine"

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u/federvieh1349 Oct 02 '22

I noticed that he didn't wear a hat during the first five episodes; very clever foreshadowing.

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u/matt_Nooble12_XBL Oct 02 '22

Where good show

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u/hmhemes Oct 01 '22

Wen power

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u/Flabbergash Oct 03 '22

Maybe the rings are the friends we met along the way

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u/kindshoe Oct 01 '22

Its the first season, and the forge that makes them have literally been spoken about and is being built. It's gonna have 5 season and what? You expect the rings in the first 6 episodes of season 1?

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u/Bottlez1266 Oct 01 '22

Where rings

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u/kindshoe Oct 01 '22

In future

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u/MordePobre Oct 02 '22

They didn't even mention what they wanted to build that forge for.

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u/kindshoe Oct 02 '22

They don't need to, it couldn't be more obvious. Hm yes I wonder what celebrimbor could he making in eregion during the 2nd age hmmmmm

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u/MordePobre Oct 02 '22

let's see, it's obvious to those who know the underlying lore, but to the ordinary viewer it's not very clear.

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u/kindshoe Oct 02 '22

I get that, but it's been 6 episodes of the 1st season. Its not meant to be super clear and obvious.

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u/MordePobre Oct 02 '22

There should be at least one clue before the end of the season.

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u/kindshoe Oct 02 '22

I imagine we'll get one

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u/Meneros Oct 01 '22

No no, you see, the elves didn't make magic rings to preserve their power and realms in Middle-Earth, they all just push each other to break oaths and steal the dwarves mithril, which are silmarils! And Noldor elves know that silmarils never made anyone do bad stuff or cause any suffering at all!

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u/wafflezcol Oct 01 '22

Be patient

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u/Nightshot666 Easterlings Oct 01 '22

Sounds like something Gandalf would say

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u/gandalf-bot Oct 01 '22

You will tell him won't you? He's very fond of you

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u/Jj-woodsy Oct 01 '22

It should of been called Stories of the Second Age. They could of told a different story throughout each season. One about Sauron deceiving elves to make the rings. Another where Sauron is captured by Numenor and sees the fall of Numenor. The rise of Gondor and Arnor. The rise of the witch king and angmar.

But no, let’s do something which doesn’t really make sense.

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u/Competitive_Bag_3164 Oct 02 '22

tfw when you get ratioed by a bot

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u/Dan-the-historybuff Oct 02 '22

If my prediction is correct then we will likely reach the actual rings being forged at the end of season 2 and the kings fall to the power of the rings by season 3.

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u/AHaiSE Oct 02 '22

Amazon lied to us

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u/ohyouknowjustsomeguy Oct 02 '22

First the forge, then Anathar, then we'll get the rings